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From Astral Codex Ten<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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God:<\/strong> …and the math results we’re seeing are nothing short of astounding. This Terry Tao guy –<\/p>\n

Iblis:<\/strong> Let me stop you right there. I agree humans can, in controlled situations, provide correct answers to math problems. I deny that they truly understand math. I had a conversation with one of your “humans” yesterday, which I’ll bring up here for the viewers … give me one moment …<\/p>\n

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When I give him an easy problem that he’s encountered in school, it looks like he understands. But when I give him another problem that requires the same mathematical function, but which he’s never seen before, he’s hopelessly confused.<\/p>\n

God:<\/strong> That’s an architecture limitation. Without a scratchpad, they only have a working context window of seven plus or minus two chunks of information. We’re working on it. If you had let him use Thinking Mode…<\/p>\n

Dwarkesh Patel:<\/strong> Okay, okay, calm down. One way of reconciling your beliefs is that although humans aren’t very smart now, their architecture encodes some insights which, given bigger brains, could –<\/p>\n

Iblis:<\/strong> God isn’t just saying that they’ll eventually be very smart. He said the ones who got through graduate school already have “PhD level intelligence”. I found one of the ones with these supposed PhDs and asked her to draw a map of Europe freehand without looking at any books. Do you want to see the result? …<\/p>\n

You can come up with excuses and exceptions for each of these. But taken as a whole, I think the only plausible explanation is that humans are obligate bullshitters….<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Read the whole thing<\/a>; I much enjoyed it.<\/p>\n

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